Category Archives: Being filled with the Holy Spirit

The Presbyterian Heresy

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It’s Infant Baptism of Course. But Why, and What is Baptism Anyway.

The Presbyterian church believes that baptism was a ” sign and a seal” . It is a common view but not a Biblical one. The Bible describes circumcision as a sign and a seal only.

Today I’ll just look at this passage.

Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ. For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells sbodily, 10 and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority. 11 In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead. 13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14 by cancelling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.

 

As water baptism requires hands, I don’t think it is too big a leap to assume they refer to the baptism of the Holy Spirit, as it fits the description.

And lets consider the meaning of sign and seal. These are physical things that can be seen, not that we want to see a circumsion, baptism will make you wet for a time, but it is not a lasting thing. We dry off. The Holy Spirit is what lasts and makes a Christian different.

Here’s another question, how can you be buried with Christ in baptism by being sprinkled with water?

The early baptisms were done in a river, so it is logical to believe they involved immersion as this verse speaks of being buried and raised.

 

What happens if you teach rubbish about God?

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10 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and someone else is building upon it. Let each one take care how he builds upon it.
11 For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw-
13 each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done.
14 If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward.
15 If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
16 Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you?
17 If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple.

1 Corinthians 3
I get confused about this passage I must admit but I believe it is talking about the gospel preacher as the one who lays the foundation. In the context of the passage I. Think he is talking about theology. The first thing we learn is Jesus Christ. From there on a variety of ministers, teachers etc will continue to teach others, the passage describes the quality of teaching as metorphorically on a scale from gold to straw. Then there is a definite warning that if we teach rubbish we will suffer loss, but not loss of salvation. It is a different story for those that “destroy God’s temple” I don’t think this is talking about murder, although Christians were suffering persecution, the passage has been addressing Christian arguing. With this in mind I would think that destroying God’s temple is about teaching that causes the loss of salvation. Though I’m the first to admit that I’m not sure what that verse means. 🙂

Needing the Holy Spirit to understand

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6 Yet among the mature we do impart wisdom, although it is not a wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are doomed to pass away.
7 But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which God decreed before the ages for our glory.
8 None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But, as it is written, “What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love him”-
10 these things God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God.
11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God.
13 And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.

1Corinthians2
Now after a person receives the Holy Spirit they then learn “secret wisdom” . Sounds mysterious. What is the secret? It is “what God has prepared for those who love him.” The question is who is “us” When Paul says “these things are revealed to us through the Spirit of. God. I think he means the apostles. As he mentions i”interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.

In demonstration of the Spirit and of power

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And I, when I came to you, brothers, did not come proclaiming to you the testimony of God with lofty speech or wisdom.
2 For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.
3 And I was with you in weakness and in fear and much trembling,
4 and my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 so that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.

1 Corinthians 2
As we read this we see that Paul has repeated his emphasised message, that the way people become Christians is by hearing about Christ crucified. Now there is a part that may be misunderstood and that is that part that says “in demonstration of the Spirit and of power.” It sounds a bit like people are converted by seeing something miraculous. But if this is so why did he earlier say in ch1vs22 what he did about Jews seeking signs. No, I believe what he is speaking of is the effect of the one listening to the message. People hear about Christ crucified and God does the rest of the work. When a person becomes a Christian he/she is filled with the Holly Spirit. This would be the demonstration spoken of. Not that I’m not aware that Paul did miracles but that it seems that in this letter Paul is trying to make everyone understand that it is the message of the cross and the power of God that makes people become Christians.